Comments on: Where do I log in to update the web 2.0 conventional wisdom page? http://aaronmentele.com/2007/08/14/where-do-i-log-in-to-update-the-web-20-conventional-wisdom-page/ personal blog of Aaron Mentele, web developer and partner at Electric Pulp Fri, 09 Mar 2012 04:22:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Down…turn… down..turn.. down.turn. at Aaron Mentele, Charisma:18 http://aaronmentele.com/2007/08/14/where-do-i-log-in-to-update-the-web-20-conventional-wisdom-page/comment-page-1/#comment-21580 Down…turn… down..turn.. down.turn. at Aaron Mentele, Charisma:18 Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:55:43 +0000 http://charisma18.com/2007/08/14/where-do-i-log-in-to-update-the-web-20-conventional-wisdom-page/#comment-21580 [...] not sure what this all means. I was just getting used to the “screw the business model” concept. Maybe I need to track down some outside funding and play in the cash-flow negative [...] [...] not sure what this all means. I was just getting used to the “screw the business model” concept. Maybe I need to track down some outside funding and play in the cash-flow negative [...]

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]]> By: Aaron Mentele http://aaronmentele.com/2007/08/14/where-do-i-log-in-to-update-the-web-20-conventional-wisdom-page/comment-page-1/#comment-19008 Aaron Mentele Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:01:08 +0000 http://charisma18.com/2007/08/14/where-do-i-log-in-to-update-the-web-20-conventional-wisdom-page/#comment-19008 Ignoring Techcrunch for a minute... If a client tells us they're looking for a web2o-style app, we understand what they're getting at. Same holds true if that client then tells us they're aiming at a web2o audience. The w2o label has become popularized. That said, generalizations are generally bad. There is no one-size-fits-anything - I agree completely. Just as I'd agree that practicing one-step sparring won't keep you from getting beat down. Ignoring Techcrunch for a minute… If a client tells us they’re looking for a web2o-style app, we understand what they’re getting at. Same holds true if that client then tells us they’re aiming at a web2o audience. The w2o label has become popularized.

That said, generalizations are generally bad. There is no one-size-fits-anything – I agree completely. Just as I’d agree that practicing one-step sparring won’t keep you from getting beat down.

]]> By: steve goodman http://aaronmentele.com/2007/08/14/where-do-i-log-in-to-update-the-web-20-conventional-wisdom-page/comment-page-1/#comment-18999 steve goodman Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:43:45 +0000 http://charisma18.com/2007/08/14/where-do-i-log-in-to-update-the-web-20-conventional-wisdom-page/#comment-18999 I don't understand why TechCrunch treats "web 2.0" applications as though they're this completely ahistoric phenomenon. It's a pretty natural evolution from BBS, forums, mailing-lists and any other old-school communication technology. It's not even much of a stretch to think of a web 2.0 application as a mailing list with formal rules for message content; web 2.0 is about sending messages (in the form of movies, links, SMS or even good old text) to your peer network from the user perspective. From the application provider prospective, it's about money. Yahoo has been tacking ads onto the bottom of its emails for years, ads have been displayed on-line for years and people have been buying software that fits their needs (or that had a good salesman) for years. Different companies have different approaches: there's no one-size-fits-all business model for web companies, just like there isn't one for architects. When I see techCrunch constantly preaching the same method, it reeks of propaganda to me. That's why I don't read it, and why I might sound like a complete jackass. C'est la vie. I don’t understand why TechCrunch treats “web 2.0″ applications as though they’re this completely ahistoric phenomenon. It’s a pretty natural evolution from BBS, forums, mailing-lists and any other old-school communication technology. It’s not even much of a stretch to think of a web 2.0 application as a mailing list with formal rules for message content; web 2.0 is about sending messages (in the form of movies, links, SMS or even good old text) to your peer network from the user perspective. From the application provider prospective, it’s about money.

Yahoo has been tacking ads onto the bottom of its emails for years, ads have been displayed on-line for years and people have been buying software that fits their needs (or that had a good salesman) for years. Different companies have different approaches: there’s no one-size-fits-all business model for web companies, just like there isn’t one for architects.

When I see techCrunch constantly preaching the same method, it reeks of propaganda to me. That’s why I don’t read it, and why I might sound like a complete jackass. C’est la vie.

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