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		<title>By: Ultimate Collection of HTML5 and CSS3 Resources</title>
		<link>http://aaronmentele.com/2010/03/17/html5-again/comment-page-1/#comment-45593</link>
		<dc:creator>Ultimate Collection of HTML5 and CSS3 Resources</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: B? s?u t?p resources HTML5 và CSS3 &#124; Freelancers.vn - Hành Trang cho Freelancers</title>
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		<dc:creator>B? s?u t?p resources HTML5 và CSS3 &#124; Freelancers.vn - Hành Trang cho Freelancers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 15 Best HTML5 Resources That Helps You Get Up To Speed &#171; The Creative Project</title>
		<link>http://aaronmentele.com/2010/03/17/html5-again/comment-page-1/#comment-45540</link>
		<dc:creator>15 Best HTML5 Resources That Helps You Get Up To Speed &#171; The Creative Project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Adrian Borkala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Borkala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the article Aaron.

Something worth noting is that in HTML5 unlike it&#039;s predecessors, you can use h1 for the first header within a new section (an article constitutes as a new section) rather than using the h3 as you have within the article therefore you can now change your example above to have the article shows as:


      
        Implementing new markup is fun.
      
      I can&#039;t believe how excited I am right now.
      
        Related: I like CSS3 too, but Imma let you finish.
      
      
        I don&#039;t have a footer. This shouldn&#039;t even be here.
      
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the article Aaron.</p>
<p>Something worth noting is that in HTML5 unlike it&#8217;s predecessors, you can use h1 for the first header within a new section (an article constitutes as a new section) rather than using the h3 as you have within the article therefore you can now change your example above to have the article shows as:</p>
<p>        Implementing new markup is fun.</p>
<p>      I can&#8217;t believe how excited I am right now.</p>
<p>        Related: I like CSS3 too, but Imma let you finish.</p>
<p>        I don&#8217;t have a footer. This shouldn&#8217;t even be here.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Medema</title>
		<link>http://aaronmentele.com/2010/03/17/html5-again/comment-page-1/#comment-45311</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Medema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 03:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My second question came from wondering why you still slap an identical &quot;id&quot; attribute on the new elements? After another read through I noticed why... stupid question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My second question came from wondering why you still slap an identical &#8220;id&#8221; attribute on the new elements? After another read through I noticed why&#8230; stupid question.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Mentele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Mentele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://validator.w3.org/ is my favorite and it appears to be validating html5 correctly now. Honestly, I&#039;d given up on it, but I&#039;m glad to see it&#039;s back.

I use element selectors in css. They make resets dramatically more useful, for instance (nav ul {list-style:none;} instead of ul {list-style:none;}).

If you meant targeting with js, then you might run into a separate issue since IE has trouble spotting the new elements in the dom, but that isn&#039;t really an issue of id&#039;s vs. element selectors. And there are ways around the issue.

Agree on modernizr. It&#039;s especially helpful with typography.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://validator.w3.org/" rel="nofollow">http://validator.w3.org/</a> is my favorite and it appears to be validating html5 correctly now. Honestly, I&#8217;d given up on it, but I&#8217;m glad to see it&#8217;s back.</p>
<p>I use element selectors in css. They make resets dramatically more useful, for instance (nav ul {list-style:none;} instead of ul {list-style:none;}).</p>
<p>If you meant targeting with js, then you might run into a separate issue since IE has trouble spotting the new elements in the dom, but that isn&#8217;t really an issue of id&#8217;s vs. element selectors. And there are ways around the issue.</p>
<p>Agree on modernizr. It&#8217;s especially helpful with typography.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Medema</title>
		<link>http://aaronmentele.com/2010/03/17/html5-again/comment-page-1/#comment-45285</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Medema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice write up. I just launched a tiny one-pager based on this post and it went very smooth.

Couple of quick questions: Do you have a favorite validation service for html5 that you run through? The ones I found seemed a bit clunky. How big of a buzz-saw do you run into if you try to target the new elements directly instead of using their id&#039;s?

btw - modernizr is wicked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice write up. I just launched a tiny one-pager based on this post and it went very smooth.</p>
<p>Couple of quick questions: Do you have a favorite validation service for html5 that you run through? The ones I found seemed a bit clunky. How big of a buzz-saw do you run into if you try to target the new elements directly instead of using their id&#8217;s?</p>
<p>btw &#8211; modernizr is wicked.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Hedges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Hedges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 01:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got to know HTML5 and CSS3 when I was working on an iPhone web app for a client last year. Since then, it&#039;s all I&#039;ve used on client sites. Firefox 2 is a really small percentage of traffic these days and using the shim or modernizr you can get IE6 to style up the HTML5-specific tags.

I laughed at the line &quot;Div&#039;s are for suckers.&quot; It&#039;s so freeing to be able to get to elements semantically. Using classes feels kludgy now and using IDs feels like an outright failure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to know HTML5 and CSS3 when I was working on an iPhone web app for a client last year. Since then, it&#8217;s all I&#8217;ve used on client sites. Firefox 2 is a really small percentage of traffic these days and using the shim or modernizr you can get IE6 to style up the HTML5-specific tags.</p>
<p>I laughed at the line &#8220;Div&#8217;s are for suckers.&#8221; It&#8217;s so freeing to be able to get to elements semantically. Using classes feels kludgy now and using IDs feels like an outright failure!</p>
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		<title>By: Balazs Suhajda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balazs Suhajda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aaron – Forgot to mention, but I was just writing that in regards to &quot;... You’re going to hate Firefox 3. It won’t support @font-face whatever you do ...&quot;. 

From browser stats ( http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_firefox.asp ) I can see that about 83% of firefox users are 3.5 or above, so capable of enjoying @font-face goodness! :)

Of course it&#039;s good to have a tool like Modernizr for a proper fallback!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron – Forgot to mention, but I was just writing that in regards to &#8220;&#8230; You’re going to hate Firefox 3. It won’t support @font-face whatever you do &#8230;&#8221;. </p>
<p>From browser stats ( <a href="http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_firefox.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_firefox.asp</a> ) I can see that about 83% of firefox users are 3.5 or above, so capable of enjoying @font-face goodness! :)</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s good to have a tool like Modernizr for a proper fallback!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Mentele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Mentele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Balazs - with Modernizr, you&#039;re able to specify additional characteristics to the next font in the stack. I.e., we&#039;re able to dial in second choice fonts as back-up for browsers lacking @font-face support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Balazs &#8211; with Modernizr, you&#8217;re able to specify additional characteristics to the next font in the stack. I.e., we&#8217;re able to dial in second choice fonts as back-up for browsers lacking @font-face support.</p>
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		<title>By: Balazs Suhajda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balazs Suhajda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to point out:

@font-face - Introduced in Gecko 1.9.1
(Firefox 3.5 / Thunderbird 3 / SeaMonkey 2)

 ( https://developer.mozilla.org/en/CSS/@font-face )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to point out:</p>
<p>@font-face &#8211; Introduced in Gecko 1.9.1<br />
(Firefox 3.5 / Thunderbird 3 / SeaMonkey 2)</p>
<p> ( <a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en/CSS/@font-face" rel="nofollow">https://developer.mozilla.org/en/CSS/@font-face</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Pierce</title>
		<link>http://aaronmentele.com/2010/03/17/html5-again/comment-page-1/#comment-45211</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I coded my personal tumblog/rant space &#039;The Information Paradox&#039; over a year ago, and have not looked back. It wasn&#039;t really a question of &quot;Should I?&quot; but more of a &quot;Could I?&quot; and have it function as expected most of the time. The answer seems to be yes.

I love the simplicity of the markup--it&#039;s a whole lot easier to look for an  rather than a  nested twenty elements deep. My markup has become cleaner, faster and much easier to maintain. 

With IE9 touting native support of HTML5, I see no reason to avoid using it, at least in personal projects, with an eye on larger sites going forward. Now if the W3C working group could settle on how to smartly include RDFa (a much better semantic marker than microdata IMHO), we could make real progress not only on the semantic markup front, but the semantic web as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I coded my personal tumblog/rant space &#8216;The Information Paradox&#8217; over a year ago, and have not looked back. It wasn&#8217;t really a question of &#8220;Should I?&#8221; but more of a &#8220;Could I?&#8221; and have it function as expected most of the time. The answer seems to be yes.</p>
<p>I love the simplicity of the markup&#8211;it&#8217;s a whole lot easier to look for an  rather than a  nested twenty elements deep. My markup has become cleaner, faster and much easier to maintain. </p>
<p>With IE9 touting native support of HTML5, I see no reason to avoid using it, at least in personal projects, with an eye on larger sites going forward. Now if the W3C working group could settle on how to smartly include RDFa (a much better semantic marker than microdata IMHO), we could make real progress not only on the semantic markup front, but the semantic web as a whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelo Simeoni</title>
		<link>http://aaronmentele.com/2010/03/17/html5-again/comment-page-1/#comment-45210</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelo Simeoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HTML5 offers a lot more than just a doctype and some new elements. 

Browser choice aside, HTML5 sometimes isn&#039;t the most appropriate choice for what I&#039;m building. Sometimes it&#039;s absolutely essential. I&#039;m building something now that could not be done (the same way) with anything but HTML5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HTML5 offers a lot more than just a doctype and some new elements. </p>
<p>Browser choice aside, HTML5 sometimes isn&#8217;t the most appropriate choice for what I&#8217;m building. Sometimes it&#8217;s absolutely essential. I&#8217;m building something now that could not be done (the same way) with anything but HTML5.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Mentele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Mentele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get what you&#039;re saying, Angelo. But I&#039;m pushing for a reason. I want to press a lot further than the new block elements, and we&#039;re going to need to start challenging visitor browser choices to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get what you&#8217;re saying, Angelo. But I&#8217;m pushing for a reason. I want to press a lot further than the new block elements, and we&#8217;re going to need to start challenging visitor browser choices to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelo Simeoni</title>
		<link>http://aaronmentele.com/2010/03/17/html5-again/comment-page-1/#comment-45207</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelo Simeoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aaron - I&#039;ve given it a shot, and I like it for personal projects. To me, js should be used to enhance experiences. In this case, it becomes a dependency, which I&#039;m not wholly comfortable with for client work.

For the time being I&#039;m using the html5 element names as a class structure for my documents. This should make it pretty easy to upgrade sites to html5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron &#8211; I&#8217;ve given it a shot, and I like it for personal projects. To me, js should be used to enhance experiences. In this case, it becomes a dependency, which I&#8217;m not wholly comfortable with for client work.</p>
<p>For the time being I&#8217;m using the html5 element names as a class structure for my documents. This should make it pretty easy to upgrade sites to html5.</p>
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